Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai

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Des alternatives: English: We Never Learn
Synonyms: BokuBen, We Can't Study
Japanese: ぼくたちは勉強ができない
Auteur: Tsutsui, Taishi
Taper: Manga
Volumes: 21
Chapitres: 187
Statut: Finished
Publier: 2017-02-06 to 2020-12-21
Sérialisation: Shounen Jump (Weekly)

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Des alternatives: English: We Never Learn
Synonyms: BokuBen, We Can't Study
Japanese: ぼくたちは勉強ができない
Auteur: Tsutsui, Taishi
Taper: Manga
Volumes: 21
Chapitres: 187
Statut: Finished
Publier: 2017-02-06 to 2020-12-21
Sérialisation: Shounen Jump (Weekly)
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His late father always said that a useless man should strive to be useful, so to that end, third-year high school student Nariyuki Yuiga dedicated himself to becoming a high-achieving student in his school, despite his history of poor grades. In order to give his destitute family a better life, his ultimate goal is to obtain the special VIP nomination, a prestigious scholarship covering all future university tuition fees. Although Nariyuki could feasibly be a shoe-in for the nomination, he is constantly overshadowed by classmates Rizu Ogata and Fumino Furuhashi in mathematics and literature, respectively.

To his delight, Nariyuki receives the nomination, but there's a catch: he has to tutor his two star classmates, who are each hopelessly mediocre at the other’s subject of expertise! To make matters worse, the subjects they are horrible at are the same subjects they want to pursue for their future. As the time to submit university applications draws nearer, Nariyuki must find an effective tutoring method for the girls before it’s too late.

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ririkakinnie13
Apr 03, 2021
I have an unreasonable love of Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai.

While I find the art beautiful and characters relatable and compelling, I acknowledge that the harem-like setup and virtually every situation the characters find themselves in (beach, festival, onsen, etc) are well worn tropes, I assert that true originality isn't the most important aspect of a romance story. Instead, we want to root for our characters to understand each other, form meaningful relationships, find their ideal fit, and ultimately understand themselves.

For me the key elements are likable characters, realistic-ish situations, cute interactions and banter, plot development at a reasonable velocity and a satisfying conclusion, all while avoiding overly cringey dialogue, poor character choices and excessively artificial plot devices to force action.

I'm not saying that Bokutachi lacks originality, as the setup has interesting twists and each character has their own motivations and quirks. The main character's drive to overcome his own challenges provides balance to his personality and forms the core message of the story, motivating others around him and justifying the attraction the girls have for him. Like all good stories, the rewards are mostly earned after overcoming difficulty and struggle, not merely gifted to an undeserving overpowered but dense protagonist with unnatural charm.

Well OK, this story is set up as a harem and there is no way any nerdy, studious guy could actually attract so many intelligent and beautiful girls as in this story. However, as I admitted at the start, this isn't a groundbreaking experimental work of art so enjoying the dynamics of the girls competing for acknowledgement while revealing their personalities as well as the tension of young adults discovering what they want and their true feelings is what makes a story like this fun and interesting.

For me Bokutachi puts all the elements together in an almost perfect way that is rarely found elsewhere. So much of what we like is influenced by our personal situation, other similar stories we use as comparison and how far along a series is when we start. I'm writing this at the Ch.52 mark and look forward to each additional chapter, expectantly and more than a little impatiently.
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TravisBickle15
Apr 03, 2021
It's been a year and a half since I started reading BokuBen manga weekly. Every week, getting a quick chapter, which usually doesn't add much to the story but some random comedy and fluff, with occasional serious arcs.
And today, with the release of the 187th chapter, the manga is now complete.

Looking back, I feel like BokuBen lacked quite a bit throughout the manga. Some girls getting more development than others, some naturally having better chemistry with the main character than others, but overall how much it was lacking in actual progress.

But even with that, it has caught a special place in my heart. It doesn't do anything too groundbreaking, and the Harem romcom genre has pretty much shown us all we have to see in the genre, yet - BokuBen was able to play it off all nicely.

Misunderstandings were almost always played for the jokes and rarely (if ever?) was used as a long-term drama driver.

The girls are cute and quirky, although are pretty much falling into previously known archetypes (Tsundere, Genki childhood friend, Ice Queen, etc.).

The main character, Nariyuki, suffers a lot from the usual antics of being a main character of a Harem. But luckily he does develop over the series, even when he's on the back burner. And he also becomes more confident and bold over the series, which I liked.

Finally, the ending of the manga (which I will not spoil) was satisfactory. Which is pretty rare for Harem manga, but 22i handled it very nicely. I applaud the man.

All in all, it's a 8/10 from me. I can recommend it if you're looking for a chill Harem romcom, although there isn't too much to see if you're digging deeper.
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AoiRingo1
Apr 03, 2021
For the longest time the romcom/harem genre is something that I have always enjoyed watching and reading. Every season there seemed to be a new “waifu war” airing, and based on watching those particular shows I would always check out the source material if I found it interesting enough. Bokuben was one of those seasonal waifu wars that I actually did decide to pick up reading after watching the first episode. I caught up on the manga within a couple of days of watching the first episode, and let me say that I am so glad that I was able to read this manga.

1. Story (9/10)
If you are looking for some groundbreaking or genre-breaking story, then I’m sorry Bokuben is not the story for you. Bokuben uses a lot of common tropes and cliches to tell its story, however if you don’t mind that or appreciate those types of stories then you may actually enjoy Bokuben. For me personally, I don’t always 100% enjoy when animes/mangas just dump cliches for plot, but for Bokuben it really was one of the most enjoyable parts about it. For example, one particular chapter that I loved was the chapter in which Nariyuki’s mother couldn’t make it to work, in which he proceeds to take her spot for the day. Little does he know that his mother was working at a lingerie shop, and that he would get stuck alone in that shop while also stuck in a costume that hides his identity. And of course every single one of the main female characters would proceed to walk in and ask for help one by one. Despite it being cliche and having these crazy one in a million types of encounters, I couldn’t help but smile and enjoy these small and simple interactions that happen throughout the course of this series. And although I have only talked about these small moments and plot elements, the moments in which the series actually turns serious and wants to establish things is done really well too.

2. Art (8/10)
The art in Bokuben is really good. The character designs, both main and side characters, are drawn really unique and all have their own charm. All of the female characters are drawn in a way that really makes them stand out from each other and the rest of the characters. The reason that the art is not rated higher is that the art for Bokuben cannot compare to the other shonen powerhouses that also publish in Weekly Shonen Jump, but at the same time, it really doesn’t need super crazy double panels to portray its story adequately. All of the artwork from the beginning to the end is solid and doesn’t waver in quality.

3. Character (10/10)
The one aspect of Bokuben that impresses me the most is the characters. Personally, in most romcom/harem series, I typically always only really like one of the girls and at most two. But in Bokuben, there was a certain point in which I really liked each of the five girls as the best girl. Something that Tsutsui-sensei did really well with this series that stands out above most other series in this genre is really give a platform for all of the characters to grow and shine. Nisekoi, for example, has a similar amount of girls as Bokuben, however as a reader you know at a pretty early point which girls that the main character was going to end up with, meaning that any development between the mc and those side characters were really just useless side plots. However, in Bokuben, all the girls are well-defined and all go through their own personal development throughout the course of the story. All of the girls work well both together as well as individually and all of their development is towards both the characters personally as well as their feelings towards the mc. I don’t want to spoil anything, but no matter which girl you pick you will be satisfied that the author does that character justice in the end.

4. Enjoyment (10/10)
When it comes to just about every romcom/harem series, I always enjoy the ride, but always the ending is the thing that overrides everything because I either get really happy or really salty based on how the author ends the series. I’m not gonna lie, in most cases I am on the salty side because the girl that I think is the best girl almost never wins, so when those particular mangas end, I always end up not liking it in the end because of the recency bias. Without saying too much, I can say that with the ending of Bokuben, I was very happy and satisfied in the way that Tsutsui-sensei decided to end this series. It was a pretty unique ending that I have never read or watched from another series in this genre and I promise no matter which character that you like, you won’t be disappointed with the ending. Everything that happens throughout Bokuben, whether it be the small cliche in-between moments, or the deeper moments of development that occur throughout the story, they all compile into a great story with tons of enjoyable moments.

5. Overall (10/10)
Honestly, Bokuben is a fantastic series that really stands out among other romcom/harems for its development and use of ALL characters rather than just a select few. The ending sequence that Tsutsui-sensei chose to do was really great and I hope that future series consider doing the same, because it would make the series a lot more enjoyable in the end for everyone. Thank you Tsutsui-sensei for the great ride and I look forward to your future works.
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WhoCanPeliCan7
Apr 03, 2021
From the start, be aware this manga isn’t special from any other rom/com ecchi/harem mangas that you may know. And if you really want to read a good manga in this genre, I could recommend you ‘Yamada-kun and the seven witches’ (if you want the same amount of ecchi but with a way better story) or ‘Gotoubun no Hanayome’ (which is very similar to ‘We Never Learn’, but has a much better storytelling and success without ecchi). However, in one point it is special, at least from the mangas in this genre which I know, and that is the ending. So be warned, it will contain few spoilers, but I will mark it and try to spoil as little as possible. Also I will compare this title with the previously mentioned 2 mangas and to ‘Nisekoi’ a bit.

Short spoiler-free version
- Overall (6/10):
If this may be your first manga in this rom/com ecchi/harem genre, then it is a good first step. If it's at least your 10th, then you will get nothing special. Same generic minimalistic story with poor storytelling and mostly mainstream characters for every preference. Ecchi scenes get with the time more and more, to a point where you may ask yourself “Was there ever a story or was it always full with A’s and B’s?” How it ends is unusual, but also not flawless. Solid 6/10, nice for beginners, but wouldn’t recommend to advanced rom/com readers.

Long version
- Story (6/10):
First of all, I really don’t like ecchi Manga/Anime (but I love rom-coms). And this is an important aspect of the story, because at least 60% if not 80% of it is based on the protagonist’s “pervy luck”, which shows the mangakas poor story writing skills. But that wasn’t so at the beginning. It had some good, some excellent jokes and a relatively good base story with a slowly good developing chemistry between the characters. However, due to the poor story writing these jokes repeat themselves but with more and more ecchi, while the base story goes nowhere. This is a very well-known mistake in this genre, so nothing special.
But back to the beginning. Our overall best student has to tutor 2 (later more) one-subject geniuses in their worst field. However, very soon this teaching falls mostly out of the story and develops to the generic rom/com ecchi/harem story. Nonetheless the extra is the immediately starting 2 equally love-interests, and I repeat equally! While in most of these kinda manga you know from the start who will end with our protagonist, just like in ‘Nisekoi’ (which was the main reason why I didn’t like it, because it made the whole plot unnecessary), here you are totally in the dark about how it will end. And this gives this one extra point which makes this average story to a little bit above to a weak 6.
Note: A very similar base story has also ‘Gotoubun no Hanayome’ where this premise gets way more importance and with even 5 (almost) equally love-interests, with (in my opinion) a nice unpredictable ending.

So, let’s turn to the ending, because the generic middle is not even worth mentioning. In my experience, harem manga/anime ends in 2 typical ways. Either it ends with the protagonist chooses every/noone or it ends with the first girl. In the later falls ‘Nisekoi’ or ‘Yamada-kun and the seven witches’ (however, in this one it was different anyway due to the first girl was never really questioned. But I don’t want to spoil anyone, so I stop right now). But here we have 2 “first girls”, so the only way it could end is the former? To answer this either read the manga or beware of spoilers!

*spoiler mark*
If you can’t choose, you choose everyone, but here comes the twist, you also choose just one! How does this work? Easy, you create for every girl (5 in this work) different endings, just like in dating simulators. I experienced similar endings, however, there the routes changed (partly) the complete story, while here just the ending was different. And it was totally unclear until the certain point. This seems like the perfect way to end a harem, but let me explain what disturbed me.
To make different endings based on the same story is really hard, and as I mentioned the mangaka is not the best story writer. So to make it possible he has to overwrite a lot of things, like character developments or story parts, and create plot holes. There are parts where you ask yourself “Does this flashback was really in the previous chapters? Or is it part of this overwriting?”. To make things worse, this turnpoint happens relatively at the middle of this work, and if you read it week to week, you will totally forget what happened 50-80 chapters ago…
Now let us talk about the different endings. I won’t tell which girl has which scenario, so I just mention them as first to fifth. What I should mention is which was my “favorite girl”, so you know it could be a little bit subjective, and this girl was the second, while the last one was the fifth.
The first was definitely the author’s “favorite” or his main route at least. It’s also the best written, most developed and logical, because it either has plot holes or overwriting, and maybe the most romantic too. The second was a catastrophe! It wasn’t really focused on the girl, it was more about the side character. It had complete nonsense parts, plus was not really romantic. The third was okay, mostly generic. But oh boy, the fourth was unexpectedly amazing! It had it’s overwriting too, nevertheless it matched perfectly to the characters and to the previous story. By the fifth I felt the most overwriting, reused events and plot holes, like completely forgotten character developments. Also this felt the most dragged and unnatural.
*spoiler mark ends*

- Art (7/10):
For me unnecessary ecchi is one of the most hated parts in manga/anime. This is full with that, but at least it has more class than the currently ongoing ‘Ayakashi Triangle’... And even if it has a lot of ecchi which I think is unnecessary, it doesn’t mean that I can’t appreciate the mangaka’s artwork. He shows the readers all kinds of ecchi elements, which are nice drawn and detail-rich. Especially the character designs are above the average for a rom/com manga. Meanwhile the comedy elements are appropriately stupid and good drawn. What it lacks are the changes. Even if the characters are getting several years older (or younger in flashbacks) their designs do not really change. Also, the romantic scenes are detailed, but sometimes it still lacks the feeling of romance.

- Characters (5/10):
As I said excluding the nice artwork and the ending it’s a really generic rom/com manga, and so are the characters too. They are just some massproducted average rom/com characters. In addition, due to the poor story writing the characters are also just 1-2 charastics without any deepness or big developments. They felt like one joke comedians, showing us the same thing again and again.

- Enjoyment (5/10):
I really enjoyed the first 20-40 chapters and the last 40-50 chapters. Also the chapters where the story or the character developments were in the spotlight. Unfortunately, the good jokes from the beginning got repeating and unfunny while the ecchi ratio increased, so proportional my enjoyment decreased. However, if you are into classy ecchi stuff I think you may enjoy it way more than I did. On the other hand, the romance part was solid especially for the last chapters.

- Comparisons and recommendations:
In my opinion this title is better than ‘Nisekoi’, however it has way more ecchi. So for non-ecchi fans ‘Nisekoi’ could be the better option for starter rom/com readers. On the other hand, compared to 2 of my favorites ‘Yamada-kun and the seven witches’ (contains ecchi) and ‘Gotoubun no Hanayome’ (doesn’t contain ecchi) it struggles a lot. If you are more into story (like me) or an advanced rom/com-fan who does not read these 2 I truly recommend them. However for the (ecchi) art this manga is maybe better for you.
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