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uranx6
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
I will spoil some beats of Shounen no Abyss here, as well as Aku no Hana. Be warned.

I must say, when I first found this title my interest was piqued. The art-style seemed pleasant, capturing atmosphere through paneling and shading akin to Shuzo Oshimi, as well as having a character design strikingly similar to Aku no Hana's post time-skip Kasuga. I must say I am a big fan of Aku no Hana, and upon writing this review, I have not read anything that quite captures atmospheric depression and loneliness in the same manner. So yes, I was excited to read something which could capture a similar feeling.
But as I continued to read Shounen no Abyss, the more it felt lacking, to the point where it would be frustrating. I suppose my expectations should've been lower...

The story follows Reiji, a seemingly normal high-schooler with normal problems who lives in the middle of nowhere. He gets lightly bullied by an old friend, has some family problems, and wants to leave town, but it's hard to tell if any of these issues really get to him at all, or if he's simply good at brushing them off. Instead, he choses to indulge in Idol culture and hang out with his friend. He seems happy. Then he meets his favorite idol who now works at a drug store and suddenly his everyday life is turned upside down... Does this sound familiar?

Already, I was inclined to make comparisons to Oshimi's Aku no Hana simply because of the artwork and Reiji being a Kasuga look-alike, yet so many story beats, atmospheric panels, and early moments feel so Oshimi it made me think that he was a main inspiration.
Boring town, check, normal but quiet boy with not many friends, check, girl who comes in and changes the way he sees his everyday life, check. But the difference between Shounen no Abyss and Aku no Hana become clear after these first few chapters end.

One main issue I see with Shounen no Abyss is that it fails to really capture WHY people become mentally ill. Reiji is fine one moment, then is trying to commit suicide the next. There is no flow, no development, no character beats that would lead up to this. There were some issues in his life, but there was no reaction to any of them. It makes Reiji seem shallow, a husk of a character that the author can manipulate into feeling any way he wants.
If I could bring up Aku no Hana one more time, the timeskip is a foil. We SEE Kasuga slowly becoming disillusioned with life for 6 volumes, then after the failed suicide, he has to crawl out of this mess himself. It's slow, and natural, and we can see how the events have shaped him post-timeskip. Reiji lacks any progression in his actions. We barely get to know how he thinks and reacts to things before he decides to end it all. Once again, this seems shallow.

The structure is the second big problem. Shounen no Abyss wants to have it's cake and eat it too. Have a cast of 'developed' depressed people, and have Reiji get laid by as many girls as possible. The idol he looked up to, his teacher, his best friend, his mother(?). These girls aren't characters, they are tropes that Reiji can use for sex and then move on to the next girl. It's almost structured like an arc, except there isn't any conclusion. Reiji goes from girl to girl without much of a reaction. And though we seem to be getting consequences from this, who cares? Why should we care when Reiji doesn't?

Pure and simple, I described it once as depression porn, and I stick to that claim. There is nothing that is being said here that hasn't been said better anywhere else, if it's saying anything at all. It seems like a pre-teen's idea of what depression would be like, adding in a bunch of cute girls to keep the attention of it's readers. It's begging to be called deep without putting the work in, begging to be labeled as a masterpiece without any actual progression. Overall, Shounen no Abyss is not worth your time. It wasn't worth mine. There's nothing of substance here, and I doubt there ever will be.
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porchpuppy11
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
For anyone reading reviews to see if they should pick up this manga, please for the love of god let me spare you:

Also, since it's happened in the past; before anyone says 'lol why read the manga if u hate it', I clicked on this because it was the most recently updated manga on the website I used to read it, was interested in the description, and read every chapter in like an hour, since there's really not really a whole lot of thinking required.

- If you are looking for a 'deep' manga with some kind of underlying metaphor or overarching theme, read something else.
Before anyone tries to say that this manga is deep simply because it touches on themes like suicide, rape, depression, etc. please just know that even a middle schooler that is proficient in any language can write a story equal to this one, in terms of how deep those themes go. This manga is not deep, period. The story feels like the author just made a spider web of ideas that they wanted to write about, and pieced them into a book in no particular order, then spent a few hours coming up with some contrived, bullshit way for them to connect somehow. I have read 22 full chapters, and there has been maybe a chapter's worth of development on the main plot. It started off with some late-highschool aged kid living in a shit hole in the boonies, with a group of dudes who harass him, and a family life that's fucked up, and his goal is to leave the town to get away from all that. I don't want to go into explicit detail of what exactly happens, since this is a review, and I don't want to spoil anything on the off chance that someone will read it even after seeing this. With that being said, just go to the page for "Himegoto: Juukyuusai no Seifuku", which is by the same author, and read the description, then amplify the level of depravity that you would expect from it 10-fold, and that's what the actual story entails. This manga is about on that level, except rather than it being a story about sexually confused youth, it's about a bunch of random shit happening, and every character sexually taking advantage of one another (or trying to). The author uses these themes and soft-core hentai scenes to appeal to low-level curiosity, and, unfortunately, any other deeper meaning behind the things that happen can only be implicated by the reader. Good stories that touch on deep themes do not put the responsibility on the reader to fill in the gaps where there is no substance. It is the author's job to deliver on these implications that they intentionally put forth to begin with. (There are also implications of rape, blackmail, drug overdose, prostitution, and NTR, so if you're not into that shit, then definitely don't read.)

- If you are looking for a 'dark' manga that highlights some negative part of the world, or the people in it, read something else.
It's not to say that this manga doesn't touch on dark subjects, because it certainly does, but that's precisely the problem. So far it has only 'touched' on these subjects, alluding to or explicitly mentioning them as some kind of plot development that would be major in any well-written story, only to immediately move on to the next thing. These themes and subjects are used solely to evoke that 'butterfly'/'sinking' feeling in your stomach that you get when something really nightmarish happens to a character you like. And the subjects themselves are probably enough to elicit this type of feeling, but the author doesn't directly do anything for the reader to actually develop a large enough attachment to the characters for this to be possible. You might be thinking "but there's only 22 chapters! they'll go deeper!". If this was a valid point, I might agree, but I would argue back that it's the author's fault for writing these intended emotional kicks to the stomach in the first couple chapters. Even when you ignore the previously mentioned point, I would still disagree. There have been way too many instances in a 22 chapter sample size where the story just breaks from its path and starts a new one completely, only to randomly tie it in later. Also, based on this author's track record of cutting plot in favor of deplorable shit, don't be surprised when that same thing happens here. (also the pacing is just bad in general, everything moves really quickly, but lacks meaningful substance.)

- If you are looking for a romance manga that has hints of the previous two topics, read literally anything other than this.
There is nothing romantic about this story, whatsoever. Anybody who has read up to the latest chapter of this manga and can say with a straight face that this should be classified as romance has a really warped sense of what romance actually is.

- If you are looking for a manga with nice art, and don't give a shit about the story, read away.
The art is the only redeemable aspect of this manga, imo. A lot of the scenery is just filtered real-life pictures, which is common in most slice of life manga series, but there are actually a higher than average number of hand-drawn scenes that look pretty good.

- If you saw the 'smut' tag and wanna see the big sex, there's plenty of doujin authors that are more talented at both writing story, and drawing nipples for you to jack off to.

To sum up, I feel like this manga is really outrageously overrated by a lot of the people who have read it. This manga absolutely has the parts to potentially be something amazing, but honestly, knowing this author, I highly doubt they can piece them together into something amazing, given the erratic mess they've created thus far.

Side note: the last manga I read before this was GTO, and to go from that masterpiece to this was a hilarious contrast.
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vaberella1
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
This will be my first manga review.

So imagine if one day you decided to mix the Sexual and depressing moments from PunPun with a Kaneki-head ass looking mc, what you will get is boy's abyss. This manga is kinda like highschool, not because I related to this during my highschool years, because it starts off with great potential but in the end, it makes you feel so stupid that you wanna off yourself.

The more you read, the more annoying it gets, not even joking, if it wasn't for the great art, I probably wouldn't have read 42 chapters of this. The characters are all retarded for some reason, the mc keeps going back to those who emotionally manipulated him, and the side characters are all there to serve the purpose of making the mc hate himself even more.

Personally, I'm completely fine with depressing stories and flawed characters, in fact, some of my favorite mangas and anime have both of these attributes. That's not to say that you can just mix them together, and except the work to be interesting or deep in any way, it just becomes a hot mess of depression and sex.

The main problem is the lack of build-up. I personally wasn't able to emotionally connect with any of the characters, because there was so little time for any build up to happen, before we jump into the main conflicts and stories. Emotional connections are an extremely vital part of these tragic and depressing stories, because without them, the story would just seem dull and hollow.

The themes aren't bad at all in my opinion. Dealing with abuse and emotional manipulation is a very serious issue for many people, but the characters are all used in a way that represent abuse instead of demonstrating it. For example, the teacher, represents obsession and emotional control. But she never got a meaningful background to her character that turned her into the type of person she is, she's just like that way. Of course, I'm sure it does get briefly explained when she was introduced, but again, it wasn't enough for me to connect and comprehend that.

The art is very good, and I think that's the main selling point of this manga.
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mittalyashu8
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
Depression is a horrific thing. One that many of the most prior and coming generations will experience in large. Always apart of the human condition, it's something that bites so fiercely with nary a way to really bite back. Shounen no Abyss is a manga that aims to summarise and encapture that darkness that so much of the youth struggles through these days. It is not alone in it's attempt, so much media comes from pain and so much media tries to understand it, despite how impossible it may be to capture a feeling shared by so many but unique in it's vices to everyone it affects. Much manga, anime and other media in the past have tried their hand at recreating it and only the most elite amongst them have ever belonged to that club of higher media. Our manga in question is by no means a member of that club, although it may just have a toe in the door.

Shounen no Abyss is a Coming of Age, Psychological Drama Manga by Minenami Ryou, most famous for Himegoto: Juukyuusai no Seifuku, a drama of similar genre but wildly different thematics. In Abyss, Ryou attempts his darkest story to date with our protagonist Reiji Kurose and his suicidal tendencies suffering from an overbearing life, dysfunctional family and uncertain future. If you have read other Manga of this genre then this tiny synopsis will probably familiarlize you due to an abundance in the medium that have also tackled the strife of youth indifference, most famously Oyasumi Punpun. Shounen no Abyss makes genuine waves to stand on the same wavelength of the classic by giving very legitimate structure and reason to the nature of the manga and Reiji Kurose's issues. There is legitimate thematic weight to not only Kurose but the abundance of supporting characters, each with their own unique pain and reasons to their own problems.

However, sadly this Manga seems to suffer from it's affiliation with Young Jump and thusly it's purpose as a Seinen. Now, my speculation here is not to be taken for verbatim. However, there is little else that could explain the bizarre sexualization and characterization inside the series. Minenami Ryou has dabbled in ecchi in the past but to place nudity within Shounen no Abyss to the point where it dabbles on the line of ecchi/fan-service is a bizarre choice to say the least. Now, sex and romance (or lack thereof) is most certainly apart of Coming of Age and a massive causation of depression worldwide and of course most importantly, within Japan. Though, in no good mind can I find the reason for the female characters to be one minute rendering their soul apart in double page spreads of pure outbursts of sorrow, anguish and rage to the next issue be throwing themselves on our main character as if he was lathered in aphrodisiac. In order to justify these rapid moodswings and sudden appearances of intense thirst, Minenami Ryou has to apply rather tired character archetypes in order to placate the Young Jump crowd and editorial staff. Particuarly of note is the disillussionment of the teacher character, one that as previously noted, has a legitimate reason to be involved with Reiji Kurose and has a genuine feeling of sadness about them but is then degraded to having a far too familiar trope seemingly forced onto them in order to remain prominent in the series and satisfy some weird neccessity that far too much Seinen seems determined to have.

As for the other aspects of the manga, the art retains the familiarlity of the rest of Minenami Ryou's work, not exceptional but acceptable, except for some occurrences where there are mild flexes that show impressive talent. It can also be said that the character designs are unique to the point of everyone being instantly identifiable whilst still maintaining utter believability. Not easy by any means. The pacing of the manga is generally quite good and leads to an overall easy read (darkly humorous considering the subject matter isn't meant to be digestable), this could be consumed in one afternoon quite comfortably and the little plot hooks laid towards the end of chapters are firm enough to drag "just one more issue" out of you.

Overall, Shounen no Abyss seems to definitely have the wherewithal to achieve more and be better than the sum of it's parts. However, it's holding back and falling into safe zones that means it will please the small crowd it gains and probably fall into obscurity in a few years or under the radar to be later discussed as a "hidden gem". Ironically a theme of the manga is causing yourself pain to endlessly please those who don't really care for you, settling for mediocrity as it's best for those that have expectations. Shounen no Abyss will never escape the abyss of other endless average to good Seinen Drama if it does not forget that it doesn't need to be like any of the rest. It just needs to be itself.
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blackrabbz761
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
this review will contain some spoilers

the story and the characters

the manga can be summed up as suicide harem, as the mc and everyone around has depression for some reason or another and everyone wants to commit suicide, this manga really know how to explore its characters, psyche

this story isn't for everyone, but for me it was very enjoyable as there wasn't a single dull moment throughout the manga, every chapter leaves you with wanting more, as there are twist and turns, it always feels like its moving, there is a sense of mystery behind all the characters

the author really knows how set the tone, i will give you an example the mc has sex with Nagi a girl he just met, you would think it would feel extremally forced or contrived, but the way its pulled of really fits with tone, there is a sense of eeriness behind each character


as the name of the manga applies you will be sucked into an emotional depressing abyss,,

This manga gives you ray of hope by introducing you to a new character just to bring your Hope's collapsing down, you would think a character would come along be a beacon of hope for the mc, nope the mangaka be like, "we don't do that here" every character is selfish and flawed, they feel human, they use and abuse the mc in some way or form

reading this manga gave me similar feeling that i felt whilst watching welcome to nhk, although not as depressing as that show, it does tackle some similar themes

the art

the art style is pretty good for the most part but some panels can leave more to be desired, on some rare occasions you will get some panels which are really really great,
although its not this manga's main focus i must say the author really know how to draw boobs, and the

final thoughts

although i sang this manga's praise, there are some minor flaws which i want to mention

first of all i was not really a big fan of the yandere character, I thought she started of fine but later just became a plot device, I didn't like direction that the author took with her character, I felt that she could have been explored in a different way rather than just turning her into what felt like "comical villain"


if anyone's wondering weather or not to read this manga i highly suggest you do, you wont regret it


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Nameless07
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
(basically my video review, but why write something different...)

A quote that is attributed to the philosopher Schopenhauer says this: ‘we should always be mindful of the fact that no man is ever very far from the state in which he would readily want to seize a sword or poison in order to bring his existence to an end.’

Now, the story is a little hard to explain for some reason, but I’ll try without spoiling anything. The MC is, of course, a high schooler named Reiji.He lives in a small town and is a secret otaku – he recently got into an Idol Group アクリル, a group that was introduced to him by his even bigger otaku childhood friend, Chako. One day after school, they just chill as always, when tourists ask them for a specific location. Reiji is confused as he doesn’t know why anyone would visit their little town, but Chako explains to him that there’s a novel in which two lovers commit suicide by ‘going into the water’. The place they do this at is located in this very town. Chako changes the subject though and tells Reiji that she was advised to take the exam for Waseda university, which is a real and prestigious university in Tokyo.

Chako asks if Reiji doesn’t want to leave the town as well, but he feels responsible for his family. His dad is out of the picture, his older brother is a troubled hikikomori and his grandmother needs constant assistance – so his mother is really relying on Reiji’s help. Saying that he feels the weight of the world on his shoulders might be a good way of putting it.

And it doesn’t even end there – another childhood ‘friend’ called Gen makes him run errands for him. So one evening, Gen asks Reiji to go get some cigarettes for him. Reiji goes to the conbini to buy them, when the clerk tells him that they don’t sell to high schoolers. This never happened before, and Reiji realizes that she must be new. Later that night, he sees her again when she’s taking out the trash, but there’s a homeless looking dude so he feels like he should stay close in case anything happens. She just gave this guy a bentou and nothing happens. So, Reiji and the girl start talking and it turns out that she is actually Nagi, the chick from the idol group he loves so much. This is where Reiji says his ‘death’ began.
But immediately this girl is suspicious, right? Like, why would this pop idol and city girl be in such a small town and hang out with a high schooler? And this actually brings me to my next point: the main character. For some reason, so many girls and grown women as well are drawn to him. We don’t really know who Reiji is and I can’t say when he acts ooc. This can make him interesting since it makes you wonder who he really is and what he thinks and wants…it seems as if whenever someone asks him to do something, he just agrees. I don’t know if he has a mind of his own.

He seems like a regular guy, but one bad thing happens and he kinda loses it – all it takes then is for one person – always female – to ask highly suspicious things of him and he wants to do them without hesitating. There’s a fine line between having no personality and creating an air of mystery around someone. I don’t know if he’s been hiding his true emotions and they just get triggered by all these women or if he is just easily manipulated. The manga isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. But somehow, everyone in his life clings to him for support, even Chako. Everyone needs him to be something. Nagi is the only one who doesn’t need him to be anything, she invites him to eternal piece aka. Death, essentially. In my eyes, that’s why she doesn’t really need an amazing personality, as she merely functions as a symbol, if that makes sense.

Chako is more fleshed out, she has a distinct personality and a stronger will than probably anyone else in the story. The other characters, like the teacher and mother, seem like leaves drifting in a river. These ‘no personality types’ can seem like bad writing at first, but I’d like to think that this was a deliberate choice to stress the apathy so many people feel in small towns. It’s also interesting that there are basically no men in Reiji’s life. Aside from Gen, who, despite everything, seems to care deeply about Reiji, there is not a single male figure of importance in his life. I don’t know, I’m just starting to feel a little sus about it. The fact that the story is set in a small town makes a lot what happens relatable. Everyone knows everyone, dreams die when you grow to live the life your parents lived, you know…things like that. I lived in a small town for many years in my youth, so I know what it feels like.

The character design in and of itself isn’t super outstanding – it’s pretty good, but nothing super unique or anything. However, the author is really good at creating the right atmosphere. The town has this dark history and it feels like there is constantly something sinister lurking in the shadows, or a darkness waiting to pull you into the deep – or into an abyss, if you will. Everyone constantly seems to be at the brink of suicide, which reminds me again of the quote I mentioned at the beginning of this review. It kind of feels like everything is normal during the day, but as soon as the night comes, everything suddenly changes.
Some people were complaining that this manga is trying to be ‘deep’, and I’m never really sure what they mean when they say something like that, but OK…if something is meaningful or not is different for everyone, so that’s a point I really do not like seeing in reviews unless you can tell me exactly why you felt that way – otherwise, it’s just an opinion and should be written as such.


Thanks for reading.
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_thunder13
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
For quite a time i've been looking for a good psychological manga that really focuses on the mind of the characters without some edgy or forced elements, and Shounen no Abyss was able to actually cheer me up, since i'm a fan of the genre.

Its dramas are formidable, the setting has a great weight and it is properly placed in his protagonist who is heading on a foggy path in this manga. The characters are well thought out and all help well in the plot. It is worth mentioning that the cast is filled with characters with serious motivated psychological problems, everyone constantly lives in a melancholy and has ties intertwined in some way. This, together with all the ambience of a depressive city, is like a weight on the protagonist's back that is gradually deteriorating.

The chapters are held by interesting cliffhangers and have several shocking moments of great psychological weight, revealing the greatest traumas and hidden feelings inside. The cast revolves around Reiji, the protagonist who from the beginning has his doubts about the future and what he will do with his life, not to mention his destroyed family. There's Chako, Reiji's best friend who will sink from her passions for a book writer and discover the real personality of her idol. Gen, the childhood friend who constantly imposes weight on the Reiji's back via humiliation and charge. Shiba, the teacher who suffers a spetacular personality plot twist. Nagi, the idol that provides the beginning of this cycle of mental destruction of the protagonist. And last, but definitely not least, Nozoe, the book writer, a very interesting character who has loopholes and secrets to be revealed, but occupies a very interesting role that directly and indirectly influences many of the characters in the plot. The manga progresses well, although slow, it remains interesting constantly.

The art is pretty good, has good character designs and expresses well the emotions it wants to bring. Particularly, the manga makes a sensational use of its quadrinization by placing double frames of mental breakdowns of the characters exploring their psychological well, with lots of outbrusts that are disturbing at best. This is a good point too, the psychological has a great weight in the work, and its raw narrative at all times conveys the work environment well.

For now it's a pretty good manga for a genre that is not quite and properly explored, with a rich and well used cast of characters, good art and quadrinization, and a solid story so far.
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TheBishList12
Apr 03, 2021
Shounen no Abyss review
First I want to address why my enjoyment for this manga was a 7 while my overall rating was a 5, I've always been a sucker for depressing themes and this manga that I've randomly stumbled upon that came up from the latest update list and the cover art seemed somewhat interesting so I decided to give it a read(I don't usually search for manga with these related themes as I don't think it will be good for my heart).

When I first read this manga, it satisfied most of my cravings for something that has a darker theme, but after re-evaluating what I've read, I've come to realise how shallow all the characters were as they all had an obsessive complication with the protagonist, and the problem seems to have just been there with no real cause(As of chapter 47, the author may give us more insight in the future). An example of this causeless problem occurs when the "Main protagonist" tries to just "live" through his miserable life, and a side character(Aoe Nagi) decided that it was a good idea to pull him into depravity with seemingly no reason that would influence her to do so, as the character actually has no reason to do what she's doing while also showing no signs of anything that would've led her to do such things, as she's well off, has a good future, beautiful, plenty of characters seem to admire her, and if the author wanted to show something like the stress and struggles that idols can go through, he did not put any hints, explicit examples or anything related to how she would benefit by putting herself and the main character into depravity. Another example of this happening is when his teacher just suddenly decided to do things a teacher must never do to their student, as she fell in love with him because he's a young guy that wanted to commit suicide, and since she has so much money she can probably afford a young male illegally so the only unique quality the main protagonist has is the fact that he attempted suicide. These are just the few examples I found that were easy to describe in words as most characters also shared a problem that seemingly rooted from nowhere but difficult to describe as they were either a combination of their own causeless thoughts and the setting in which the author has placed them in or a combination of another characters causeless thoughts mixed with shallow emotions.

Another issue that I had with this manga was the lack of voice from the main protagonist, as he seemed to have just followed what life has put him on and just let it carry him. This was one of the bigger problems that I had with this manga as sure there are causeless problems as long as they're interesting it should be somewhat fine right? Well, yes, but no. This manga portrayed the problems in a style where none of the problems actually have any connections to each other or have a substantial impact on the main protagonist with a common goal(e.g convey a message to readers, express/emphasize the emotions evoked by the main protagonist), they just seemed to be multiple mini stories that had no real libkwith the main protagonist or each other. To go back to my point where the protagonist lacked a voice, there are countless moments in the manga where you probably thought the main protagonist could've actually been all the side characters that were telling the story, if our protagonist didn't have the most screen time, as the way the protagonist responds to the problems that arises seemed to have just been how a side character should've responded (following the emotions of all the other characters but his own and following the flow of story while the pace is actually set by the side characters, e.g when the story decided to cut off at him suddenly feeling better just because his teacher said it will be better), and he simply accepts it which just seemed like a job for a side character. We didn't get to hear his opinions or see his interpretation/point of view on any subject or matter we were just told by the side character that X happened and Y happened and the mood, flow and main voice of the story seemed to have been determined by the side characters instead of the main protagonist voicing his opinions on a subject, and how he the centre of all this mess who has the most control, just does nothing and sits idle while the side characters determined the pace of the story.

These reasons are mainly talking about the way this story was structured and how the pace of the story is mainly told and set by the side characters, how we don't get any real development into any of these problems and just chucked into them. However if you're still interested after reading this and looking for a not so deep story with a few dark/depressing themes be my guests and you'll probably enjoy it. However if you're more into the character development and natural progression most stories have, this just might not be your cup of tea, but at the end of the day you don't know until you give it a try except now I know this isn't deep and doesn't have good story but it still floats my boat.

Some positives and what this manga and author has done well on is the author's use of dramatic irony to create tension and suspense, his creative/unique situations/circumstances that he came up with, the great art that created mood for the manga and how we could see that the author had control of the tone for most of this manga.
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Shounen no Abyss
Shounen no Abyss
Auteur Minenami, Ryou
Artiste --